{"id":347,"date":"2015-09-03T10:34:11","date_gmt":"2015-09-03T17:34:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/torawriting.com\/sandbox\/?p=347"},"modified":"2017-02-07T11:43:26","modified_gmt":"2017-02-07T19:43:26","slug":"what-type-of-editing-do-you-do","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/torawriting.com\/sandbox\/what-type-of-editing-do-you-do\/","title":{"rendered":"What Type of Editing do You Do?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This question used to drive me nuts.<\/p>\n<p>Most folks know that my \u201cformal\u201d training in putting words together is fairly minimal, so for a long time I didn\u2019t know that there were different types of editors, let alone what they were called. Editing was just the process of making written text better \u2013 I didn\u2019t categorize it. Thus, my annoyance at, \u201cwhat type of editing do you do?\u201d The transition from not knowing what I don\u2019t know to knowing what I don\u2019t know can cause me to wonder if all the little voices in my head are really my own.<\/p>\n<p>Once I was aware that different types of editing existed, I then had to figure them out and decide where I fit in. That, actually, turned out to be easier done than said because about the time I made the realization, I stumbled upon a sheet that defined several types of editors. &lt;Insert Snoopy happy dance here&gt;<\/p>\n<p>After more research, I now know that the exact description and name of editor-types can vary, but I find that most people understand what I\u2019m talking about (more or less) when I use the terms <span style=\"color: #006633;\"><strong>Developmental<\/strong><\/span>, <span style=\"color: #006633;\"><strong>Copy<\/strong><\/span>, and <span style=\"color: #006633;\"><strong>Line<\/strong><\/span>.<\/p>\n<h1>Developmental Editing<\/h1>\n<p>This is big-picture editing. Does the content (story) make sense? Are things consistent? Does it read well for the intended audience?<\/p>\n<p>This can be truly bloody editing because this editor moves \u2013 or removes \u2013 entire paragraphs and questions everything. People also call this Substantive Editing.<\/p>\n<p>Some people (including the <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.editors.ca\/hire\/definitions.html\" target=\"_blank\">Editor\u2019s Association of Canada<\/a><\/span>) actually draw a line between Developmental and Substantive editing. For them, Developmental Editors are involved with a project before there is even a project to edit. They help authors develop the work. On the other hand, a Substantive Editor comes in once there is a body of work to edit for style, clarity, order, and all that other bloody stuff.<\/p>\n<p>I cite the Editor\u2019s Association of Canada because their site was the first place I saw the distinction made between Developmental and Substantive editing. Since <span style=\"color: #006633;\"><strong>I lean more towards the Substantive<\/strong><\/span> \u2013 meaning I\u2019m not the best person to help you figure out what to write and how to write it \u2013 I like to give them credit.<\/p>\n<p>That said, most of the time, I see Developmental and Substantive used interchangeably. Whichever term, or phase of the project, these editors work closely with writers to make sure that what they write is actually what they want to say.<\/p>\n<h1>Copy Editing<\/h1>\n<p>Why \u201cwritten matter intended to be reproduced in printed form\u201d is defined as <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/dictionary.reference.com\/browse\/copy?s=t\" target=\"_blank\">copy<\/a><\/span>, I don\u2019t know. And, I haven\u2019t researched it all that much. Anyway, based on that definition of copy, I used to assume I was a Copy Editor. However, copy editing is not simply \u201cthe process of making written text better,\u201d it\u2019s a touch more detailed. Copy Editors get a little more precise with the process. Grammar, spelling, and fact checking are all in the realm of copyediting.<\/p>\n<p>While Copy Editors may question something an author writes, they\u2019re not the slash and burn types. This is why writers don\u2019t generally hire them\u00a0until the project is\u00a0closer to done.<\/p>\n<h1>Line Editing<\/h1>\n<p>According to <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/andimarquette.com\/2013\/07\/13\/different-types-of-editors-in-publishing-cont\/\" target=\"_blank\">Andi Marquette<\/a><\/span>, Line Editors \u201care the anal retentive microsurgeons of the editing world.\u201d These people read less for content and more for precision. Is everything \u2013 grammar, punctuation, spelling, word usage or over-usage, etc. \u2013 absolutely perfect? If it weren\u2019t the computer age, this person would literally make sure every \u201ci\u201d had a dot and every \u201ct\u201d a cross.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve read different opinions as to when a Line Editor enters a project; I\u2019m inclined to go for as late as possible. You certainly do not want to get this person involved before you have your facts, figures, or story in place. Why go through all that work when you\u2019re still re-writing and moving things around?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/torawriting.com\/sandbox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/editing.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-348 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/torawriting.com\/sandbox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/editing.png\" alt=\"editing\" width=\"812\" height=\"526\" srcset=\"https:\/\/torawriting.com\/sandbox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/editing.png 812w, https:\/\/torawriting.com\/sandbox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/editing-300x194.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 812px) 100vw, 812px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h1>So, What Kind of Editing do I do?<\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"color: #006633;\"><strong>I am a Substantive Editor.<\/strong><\/span> Do not give me something you are not willing to have returned covered in green ink. I\u2019ll point out inconsistencies, rearrange paragraphs, re-write or insert text, and ask you all sorts of questions. I edit for readability because I know that grammatically correct and readable are not always the same.<\/p>\n<p>However, I will assume you know what you are talking about and not do your fact checking \u2013 unless I\u2019m curious or in serious doubt.<\/p>\n<p>That said, I think every editor does a little bit of all the types. I\u2019ll fix grammar, and I am adamant about the <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/dictionary.reference.com\/browse\/oxford%20comma?s=t\" target=\"_blank\">Oxford comma<\/a><\/span>. On the other hand, I keep the Word grammar checker on for the finer points and am dependent on the spell checker available with every software package available.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>-Lorrie Nicoles<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This question used to drive me nuts. Most folks know that my \u201cformal\u201d training in putting words together is fairly minimal, so for a long time I didn\u2019t know that there were different types of editors, let alone what they were called. Editing was just the process of making written text better \u2013 I didn\u2019t [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":348,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[105],"tags":[108,107,70,106,109,110],"class_list":["post-347","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-editing","tag-copy-editor","tag-developmental-editor","tag-editing","tag-editor","tag-line-editor","tag-substantive-editor"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>What Type of Editing do You Do? - Tora Writing<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/torawriting.com\/sandbox\/what-type-of-editing-do-you-do\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"What Type of Editing do You Do? - Tora Writing\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"This question used to drive me nuts. 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